(Following is a long posting about the
Coyne Helicopter UFO sighting from October, 1973. It is a detailed examination
of the case that includes the skeptical arguments.
I will note one other point that I
believe I am the only research who went through the same flight training as did
Captain Coyne and Lieutenant Jezzi. I have about 1200 hours of combat flight
time and another 500 hours of additional flight time in helicopters.)
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Huey Helicopters in formation. Photo by Kevin Randle |
The sighting began when a crewman in a
UH-1H helicopter, Sergeant John Healey, in the rear, left seat, facing west out
of the cargo compartment, saw a single red light traveling south. He thought it was brighter than the red navigation lights on an
aircraft and he could see none of the other aircraft lights required by the
FAA. This light disappeared behind the helicopter and Healy thought nothing
more about it. He didn’t mention it at the time simply because it posed no
threat to their aircraft and had disappeared behind them, traveling in the
opposite direction.
A few moments later at 2302 hours, Specialist Five (Spec 5, E-5)
Robert Yanacsek, seated in the right rear, saw a red light on the eastern
horizon. He, at first, thought it was a red warning light on a radio tower, but
the light wasn’t blinking and it seemed to be pacing the aircraft. He watched
for a minute or two, wondering if the light was pacing the helicopter. Finally,
the light seemed to turn so that it was coming toward the helicopter and when
it did, he mentioned it to the pilot in command, Captain Lawrence Coyne. Coyne
glanced out the right window (eastern side) and saw the light. He suggested
that Yanacsek keep an eye on it, though there didn’t seem to be any real danger
from it.
Thirty seconds later, Yanacsek said that the light seemed to be
nearing the helicopter. Three of the crewmembers, Coyne, Healey and Yanacsek,
all saw the light. The co-pilot, First Lieutenant Arrigo Jezzi, because he was
in the left seat, could not see the light from that position.
As the continued to approach, Coyne took over the controls and
then began a descent. It seemed to those on the helicopter that the light was
on the same flight level and there was danger of a collision. He contacted the
control tower at Mansfield Airport (now Mansfield Lahm Regional Airport) asking
about other traffic in the area. At that point the radios in the helicopter
failed.
The red light became brighter and more intense. Coyne thought
that it was approached about some more then 600 knots. He had lowered the
collective to begin a descent of 500 feet per minute but then increased it to
2000 feet per minute. He had been flying at about 1200 feet above the ground
and the last he noticed it was at 1700 feet above sea level which meant he was
about 500 feet above the ground.
Just as it looked as if the as if they two aircraft would
collide, the light began to hover over the helicopter, meaning of course, they
were now flying in a two craft formation. Coyne, Healey and Yanascek would
later report that there was cigar-shaped, metallic gray craft just above them.
There was a red light in the nose, a white light at the rear, and bright green,
pyramid-shaped beam that came from the lower part of the UFO. According to
them, the green beam swung up, over the front of the helicopter, through the
main windscreen and into the upper, tinted window panels known to the crew as
the “green houses.” That bathed the cockpit in a green light.
Jezzi, on the other hand, only reported the white light, and in
some sources said it came from the upper windows. Yanascek said that he saw a
“suggestion of windows along a top dome section. (Zeidman, NICAP) He heard no
noise and felt no turbulence from the craft.
The object “hovered” over the helicopter for ten to twelve
seconds and then took off toward the west, now with only a white tail of light.
The light didn’t seem to dim as the distance increased, finally turning to the
northwest, heading out over Lake Erie. It then “snapped out” over the horizon.
Jezzi later said that it moved faster than the 250 knot limit
below 10,000 feet but not as fast as the 600 knot approach reported by the
others. There was no noise or turbulence except for a bump as the UFO flew
away.
After the object disappeared, both pilots saw that the magnetic
compass was spinning, making about four revolutions per minute. Both also saw
that the altimeter read 3500 feet, though Coyne insisted that the collective
was still at the bottom stop. Because he couldn’t lower it farther, he pulled
up on it. The aircraft continued to climb until it reached 3800 feet.
According to Zeidman, Coyne had been “subliminally” aware of the
climb. While the others weren’t aware of the climb, Coyne regained control and
he returned to his flight plan altitude of 2500 feet. The radios were working
again, and he contacted Canton/Akron.
They landed at their home station without further incident. The
story didn’t end at that point. Coyne, possibly annoyed by the close approach
of another aircraft, met with F. J. Vollmer, the FAA Chief of Operations at
Hopkins Field, Cleveland, to find out how and where to report the incident. Dr.
J. Allen Hynek interviewed Vollmer about this. Vollmer told him:
I’ll
never, all the rest of my life, forget that man [Coyne] coming in her. I have
known Coyne for some time, not personally, not even socially, but I have an
extremely high regard for his integrity and his capability. In a case of this
kind, I don’t know anybody that I would believe more. I trust his judgement
without a question of doubt… He needed advice on reporting it somewhere, but he
didn’t know where to go.
Of course, this only tells us that Vollmer believed that Coyne
believed what he was saying. Something had approached his helicopter, seemed to
have paced it or flown formation with it and then taken off, disappearing
rapidly.
Vollmer told Hynek that he couldn’t think of an official agency
that would take the report. Coyne mentioned a newspaper article that had
appeared in the Cleveland Plain Dealer, which it seemed Coyne believed would
spark some sort of official interest. But that didn’t happen.
A month later Coyne filled out an Operational Hazard report to
put the incident on the record. This would later cause long, involved,
multi-agency FOIA requests from Robert Todd. That will be examined later.
Aircrew Statements
Captain Lawrence J. Coyne
Because of Coyne’s desire to learn what had happened and what
they all had seen, there was publicity about the sighting that eventually
reached Hynek. He was able to interview Coyne on January 24, 1973, a little
more than two months after the encounter. Coyne told Hynek:
Basically,
Jezzi was sitting here [right seat] and I was sitting here [left seat]… Jezzi
had the controls We were flying along, level altitude, 2500 feet. Yanacsek
said, “There’s a light on the horizon,” and I looked out and told him to keep
an eye on it. And I looked out this window here [in the door] to the right…
He said
this thing is paralleling us, and I looked again and I said, “Well, check it
out.” And then he said that the thing was closing, and when I looked, the thing
was coming at us. It was coming direct at the helicopter and it got larger and
larger. And I’m looking out this window, now. I told Jezzi, “I have the
controls,” and I took the controls, and the first thing I did was push it down
[collective]. We started to descend… And we’re maintaining 90 knots, so then I
took the cyclic and I pushed it forward. About 20 degrees lower than the
horizon. Our airspeed was 100 knots, our altimeter, which was reading 2500,
started down, ‘cause the [rate of descent] was showing 2000 feet per minute. It
kept coming right at us, and I saw it was still coming, directly for the
helicopter…
When it
was paralleling, it didn’t look like it was closing. Then it started coming at
us, and as it came at us, I saw it was closing, and going faster and faster and
I said, “Holy Christ, that could be a jet,” and ... “No, that’s not a jet. It’s
moving too fast because of our altitude,” and I looked and we were going
through 2000 feet now…
It
started coming at us, and I pushed the collective down. And I saw it was coming
at us, and I saw we weren’t descending fast enough, so I pushed the cyclic
forward to get our nose down, to get to 2000 feet per minute, and it still
looked like it was still coming at us… it was descending in altitude also. It
was coming to wipe us out, you know. We descended from 2500 feet, we’re down
500 feet already, and then… I said the son of a gun is gonna hit us, you know.
And I braced… I figured this was it… And then they said look! And I looked, and
there it was right here…
Now the
light swung ninety degrees and came into the cockpit… Now we fly at night and
these instruments are all red lights… Everything turned green. Now, it could
be, maybe because of this [he indicated two panels set in the fuselage directly
over the pilots’ heads known as the greenhouse].
…I
looked and I saw it, right here, and then it moved this way… it went over this
way, to the west.
…It
stopped over us, and then it just slowly moved, while I thought we were
descending, ‘cause I remember it was 1700 feet and I thought, “Oh. This is it,”
and then I saw it right in front here, and I said, “That’s no F-100!” Then it
moved this way, and I looked at my altitude and we were at 3500, climbing to
3800, past 3500, and the collective is still down. This [the cyclic] is forward…
I
called Mansfield on UHF, 257.8… If this doesn’t work, you go to VHF. Then
here’s your transponder… We had the transponder on. We called on this radio,
and we called on this [other] radio, and we changed frequencies twice… And when
you key your mike, you hear a keying tone… And we heard that, so when you press
the key, the switch, you hear the transmitting sound, and there was nothing.
They said, “Go ahead Army one-five triple four.
Hynek and Coyne discuss this discrepancy. Hynek asked if they,
Mansfield heard Coyne, and Coyne said they did, but later then couldn’t find
the tapes. They, Mansfield, said they had tapes going on three or four
different frequencies at the time. Coyne said that they made radio contact with
Mansfield earlier, then lost that communication, but after the UFO disappeared,
they again established radio contact. Coyne explained that he contacted Mansfield
as the UFO was approaching them. He added:
When I
saw the thing coming at us, I said, “That thing looks like a fighter.” I said
[in communication with Mansfield], “Do you have any high-performance aircraft
in this area at 2500 feet?” And there was no answer. I said, “Mansfield Tower,
this is Army one-five triple four… Do you have any high-performance aircraft
flying in this area at a speed of 600 knots?” Nothing. I said, “Call them, Rick
[Jezzi],” and he called them. Nothing.
Now you
change frequencies, change channels, you hear a channel tone. A buzzing sound
and then a stop. That means the channel change. And it did change. And then…
nothing.
There
was the tone. But then there was nothing. And yet the radio worked, because we
were talking to Mansfield just before, without a change, and we got Ashland and
Medina. We made contact. The first people we mad contact with [after] was Akron
Approach, and we got a position report from them, and we just carried one, and
I could see this object was moved away. I saw the read as it was coming, and I
saw a red and green here…
At this point, Coyne is pointing at a picture he had drawn of
the UFO so that Hynek would have a better idea about what the had seen and the
placement of the lights on it. Coyne did tell Hynek, “The first line [at the
front of the craft] indicates where the red light stops. To delineate where the
red light stopped and the gray, metallic structure began. You could also see
the red reflection off the gray metallic structure. As you looked farther aft,
in the center of the structure, you could see gray, and… in the trailing edge
you could see the green light and off the gray structure you could see the
reflection of the green light.”
Hynek also asked about the structure wondering if it was fuzzy
or sharp. This was a question I asked the first witness I had ever interviewed
about a UFO sighting. I wanted to know, because the Air Force and the media
were always talking about fuzzy lights seen in the distance. My witness told me
the edges were distinct. Coyne told Hynek, “Distinct. Because the stars were
blotted out, you know. It was dark, but you could see the ground. And with the
stars you could actually see the outline of the structure.”
In a point that might have some relevance, Hynek, Coyne, Healey
and Yanascek all went out to dinner together. Jezzi was conspicuous by his
absent. I don’t know the reason he wasn’t there, though we’ll see that his
description of the events doesn’t match, exactly, that of the other crew
members. I will note, however, that the first thing that Jezzi said was that
this was his first flight with the unit and that might explain this situation.
First Lieutenant Arrigo (Rick) Jezzi
Jezzi didn’t speak to Hynek or Zeidman until February 12, 1974.
With this interview, Hynek and Zeidman asked him to just begin talking. He
described the event this way:
I
hadn’t flown for three months before that. We were through with our physicals
and we took off without refueling. The weather was beautiful, and our
visibility was unlimited. I was flying at the time, and we were cruising at
2000 or 2500 feet, I don’t remember exactly, and we were flying east of
Mansfield, and there had been some conversation about UFOs because at the time
there were a lot of stories coming out… The governor of Ohio had seen them [See
Chapter One]. We were flying about ten miles east of Mansfield… there’s that
F-100 Guard squadron stationed there, so you always look out for jets. I think
we called the [Mansfield] tower and cleared ourselves through the zone.
At that
time there was a mention of a red light on the horizon, the eastern horizon, to
our right, and the conversation was that it looked like a radio tower, but it
wasn’t flashing, and then a few seconds later [Yanacsek] said, “No, it’s not a
radio tower, it appears to be moving.” The next comment I heard was “it’s
coming toward us” and very shortly thereafter… I was sitting on the left side
of the cockpit… I couldn’t see what was going on, it’s very hard to look toward
the right, so Captain Coyne took the controls from me, put the collective down,
reduced the pitch [of the rotor blades] and we descended, and we dropped, oh
maybe 1000 feet to about 1500 MSL. We were trying to contact Mansfield but we
couldn’t get them. And then all hell broke loose in the cockpit. Everybody was
starting (sic) yelling and screaming about what the hell it was and that it
almost hit us. That kind of conversation kept up for several minutes. Now I
never saw the object until it was almost vertically on top of us. I never saw a
body to it at all. I would say it was about 100 feet above us and maybe 500
feet to our front. Fairly close. The only thing I recall seeing was a white
light, a very bright, intense white light on the aft portion of the object, on
the back side moving away from us. I followed the light all the way to the
horizon…
I just
saw it go away and disappear. I assume it went over the curvature. What bothers
me is that it was a very intense white light, comparable to some of the
approach landing lights on a smaller aircraft. Not at all like the aft position
light, which is an extremely small one, not very bright. It was much too
bright, extremely bright, to be an aft position light.
At this point, Hynek and Zeidman attempt to get a size of the
UFO compared to some familiar objects. It is clear that the object was larger
than a point source of light and that it might have been larger than the full
moon, though Jezzi said it was the size of two aspirins held at arm’s length.
Hynek mentioned that a single aspirin is large enough to cover the full moon.
Zeidman then wondered if the edges were fuzzy or distinct. Jezzi
said it was just a very bright, intense white light. Jezzi also said that he
didn’t have a sense of the green light in the cockpit but did mention the
plexiglass “greenhouses” over the pilots’ heads.
Jezzi explained that while there had been conversation that the
UFO had hovered above their helicopter, he didn’t see that. According to him,
“I hadn’t caught sight of it yet.”
Jezzi confirmed that the object, whatever it was, had been
traveling faster than the 250-knot limit for aircraft flying below 10,000 feet.
He also said, “I will say that it was moving faster than normal traffic at that
low altitude.”
As a cautionary note, he added, “In a way, I’m kind of the
odd-ball in this situation because I couldn’t see over to the right, and I
really didn’t see the first part, what the others saw.”
The discussion then moved to the climb, which is a critical part
of the incident. Jezzi said:
I was
aware of the dive. Your stomach went. Because Coyne really grabbed it from me.
You could tell he was concerned. He was much more aware of the proximity of the
object than I was. I hadn’t seen it. I wasn’t aware of the climb at all… and
1000 fpm… it could have been less. It was not much of a climb that steeps, that
much acceleration. But the climbing is something that occurs somewhat easily in
a helicopter if you’re not paying attention. If you’re flying the aircraft and
thinking about something else. We were talking rapidly about what was
happening. You get excited and you just to like this [demonstrate by raising
the left arm which would be holding the collective] and you’re climbing. And
gong from 1500 to 3000 feet in two or three minutes is not going to be that
extraordinary. There are thermals that are so bad that you put your collective
down and you’re still climbing. I’ve had it happen to me.
As the only Army Aviator in this discussion, and having received
the same flight instruction as both Coyne and Jezzi, I thought a few relevant
comments should be made. First, I am not sure that you could inadvertently pull
up on the collective, not realizing what you were doing. There is a friction
ring on the collective that would allow you to increase the tension, making it
more difficult to pull up. Even with that at its lowest level, the collective
is not going to come up without the pilot knowing that he was pulling on it. I
have flown in combat environments in which the level of excitement and tension
would equal and surpass that in the encounter with a UFO. I find this
explanation that any pilot, especially a pilot with Coyne’s experience to make
that mistake.
Second, and I have heard this repeated by skeptics, is the
theory that they might have encountered a thermal. But this was the middle of
October, and it was five or six hours after sunset. Thermals are created by the
unequal heating of the ground. Such heating would have disappeared with the
setting sun. The weather conditions in October are not conducive to the
creation of thermals. Cumulous clouds indicate the presence of thermals, but, according
to the flight crew, there was no evidence of clouds. All this argues against a
thermal being responsible for the unexplained change in altitude.
Jezzi explained that during the close encounter, he didn’t have
the controls and that Coyne had taken over. Given the circumstances, that
doesn’t seem to be unreasonable. Coyne had the other craft in sight and Jezzi,
from the left seat couldn’t see it. He said:
I don’t
know what he did. I saw the altitude. I recall it was over 3000 feet, it could
have been 3500 feet, and we were still talking, still trying to get Mansfield
on the radio. I’m pretty sure it [the UFO] had disappeared by then because it
faded out, and I immediately looked back over [at the instruments] and that’s
when I caught the altitude.
…I
recall Coyne’s comment about the different light colorations. And the word
“cigar-like shape” came out at that time. And they talked that it appeared to
hover over us. Of course, there was a lot of “what the hell was it?” and “we
almost got killed,” and then they talked about the climb. Was the climb the
result of the vacuum the other aircraft left? I don’t know. It’s hard to really
explain. I really did not see what the others did see. The thing that really
grabs me, it was so spontaneous. The remarks in the cockpit, the dialogue was
so spontaneous. There was something these, and it was different. That these
people, who had been flying a long time, couldn’t identify it. The light didn’t
vary in color or intensity all the time I saw it, even as it went away from us.
It was really very bright. It was different from an air navigation light. As I
said, it was just like a little ball…
The conversation then changed to the radio malfunction. Here
Jezzi reveals something about his attitude. He said that their maintenance and
their avionics were not that good. He talked about transmissions that were
clear that would then just fade out and come in the clear or garbled. The
suggestion seems to be that the radio failure at that time might be related to
the poor avionics’ maintenance rather than the close approach of the UFO.
He did mention, when asked, that the helicopter’s magnetic
compass was never the same afterwards. Jezzi said that Coyne had said that the
compass had been changed but that compass never worked. The electronic compass,
the RMI, was fine, it was just the magnetic compass that had been affected.
Jezzi did mention one other thing that might be of significance.
He said, “We flew back to Cleveland and almost ran out of gas. Hand nine
gallons left in our Huey. We have flown twelve minutes into a twenty-minute
fuel warning light.”
There was something about that statement that bothered me. I
realized that we didn’t measure the fuel by gallons but by weight. Maybe Jezzi
just translated the number of pounds left into how many gallons, but this just
didn’t seem right to me.
Sergeant John Healey
Although it was within
eighteen hours of the sighting that John Healey would tell a colleague in the
Cleveland Police Department what he had seen, the most important revelation
came some time later. In an interview that is available on line at the NICAP
website, Jennis Zeidman reported, “About ten miles south of Mansfield, Healey
noticed a single red light off to the west, flying south. It seemed brighter
than a standard aircraft port wing light, but it was not considered relevant
traffic and he does not recall mentioning it.”
In his massive UFO
Encyclopedia, Jerome Clark, wrote, “Healey would be the first to notice
something out of the ordinary, though he would not immediately grasp its
significance. Just before 11 o’clock, as the helicopter cruised at 1,200 feet
above the farms, woods and hills of north-central Ohio (2,500 feet above sea
level), Healey, seated at the left rear, noticed a steady, southbound red
light. It looked like the port-wing light of an aircraft but it seemed brighter
than normal. Also, it carried none of the other lights FAA regulations require.
Healey watched it disappear from sight behind the helicopter, but said nothing
about it to his mates.”
If this is true, then
it rules out a number of possible explanations because it suggests an object
that approached on the right side of the aircraft, flying in the opposite
direction. It then, apparently turned around and then approached the helicopter
from the left side. At first, according to the Yanacsek, the red light was
pacing the helicopter, but then turned toward it.
This fact was reported
some time later. There is no mention by Healey of seeing the light on the right
side of the aircraft during his initial interviews. Zeidman does provide a
transcript of what Healey had seen during the encounter. According to that
interview, recorded on October 19, 1973:
When we first observed this little
red light it looked like the navigation light, way out in the distance, but as
it got closer this light got very big and very bright. It was almost like the
landing lights of a 727, that’s how bright the light was… this light just kept
getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger, so we didn’t know what it was
until it was right over us, and we could see the outline. All we could see
coming at us was this one big red light. It had no blinking lights at all, or
the anti-collision beacon, just the red light in the front, the green light
underneath and the white light in the back. It looked like the real bright
landing lights we had just seen at Port Columbus. It was a steady light.
In December 1976, more
than three years after the sighting, Healey spoke with Dr. Tom Evans, Professor
of Psychology at John Carroll University in Cleveland. During that interview,
Healey said:
It had no windows, and
it was a cigar-shaped affair. It looked as though it was a solid object. It
definitely had substance. It I had to guess the material, I’d say metal. Some
of the light reflected on the object. From my point, between the seats, it appeared
to take up the entire front… both…front windows. Surprisingly, I looked at it
as a disinterested third party. I had no fear that we would be involved [in a
collision]. It was just something interesting to watch. I was hoping it would
turn around so I could get a better look…
The shaft of green
light coming out of the underside of the aircraft. You could actually see a
cone of light, a definitive cone, a light that stuck out at right angles. A
spotlight has a condensed cone from the source… the filament… to the target; it
doesn’t grow that big. But this opened up in a triangular shape. It opened up.
It wasn’t a condensed beam. I saw the green beam as the [object] was in front
of me, out the front windshield. I didn’t it as it was going away. Then I saw
the tail light… a white light. I saw the red light coming toward us, and when
the aircraft was perpendicular to us through the windshield. What happened was
I had crouched down between the two seats and that way I could look right
through the windshield. I couldn’t see the bright spot, the filament of the
light; I could just see the cone.
His description of the
light on the interior of the helicopter, the climb, and then the descent,
matches that told by Coyne. The only revelation was that he had seen the red
light on the right side of the helicopter, heading to the south, in the
opposite direction from that of the helicopter. He said that he hadn’t
mentioned this sooner because he hadn’t thought it was important.
Special 5 (E-5) Robert
Yanacsek
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Coyne and Yanacsek. |
The only member of the
crew I interviewed personally was Robert Yanacsek. Here is the transcript of
that May 29, 2018 interview:
Begin
with a little discussion about getting in touch with one another and that
Yanascek likes to return calls as quickly as he can.
KR:
I understand that you were on the helicopter with Capt. Coyne and the boys back
in October of 1973.
RY:
That’s right. Capt. Coyne, Larry Coyne. A good man.
KR:
I’ve been caught up in a bit of a dust up… with a fellow who claims that what
happened was you guys were mistaken for a helicopter that was supposed to be on
a refueling mission and the refueling aircraft is what caused the sighting. So,
I thought that I would just ask you a couple of questions about that and see if
we couldn’t clarify some of that… I ask the first question right off the top of
my head would be, what did the thing look like.
RY:
Well, essentially there are several descriptions of it, all the same, I mean
but over the years, the story’s been reported again and again. It was actually,
it was a good night for this kind of thing because it was dark, of course,
stars in the sky. It wasn’t cloudy at all, so all I really saw was the outline
of this oblong shape cursing through this star background. And there was a lead
edge light, red light, of some kind. I assume it was on the very lead edge for
sure because, as you know, you’re an aviator yourself, you know, judging things
at night is sometimes difficult but there was a red light at the front of this
craft and then a bright light at the rear. And that was it.
Some
of the reports have said that one of the other guys or couple of the guys saw a
window… or something. I don’t recall seeing that. All I recall seeing was this
round or oval black shape with the red light in the front and a very bright
light in the rear.
KR:
Did you get any impression that it was some kind of terrestrial, meaning Earth
based aircraft?
RY:
Well, I tell you what. Yes, in fact I did think it was an aircraft from around
the area actually. We were just due east of a small college and I can’t
remember the name now. They an airstrip there and I thought there was a student
pilot… and anyway we were off the end of a runway, I’d say about a mile off the
end of a runway and I thought a student pilot coming in for a landing… But the
light arrangement didn’t look right exactly, with the red and the green and
that kind of stuff and I wasn’t quite sure but I thought I just can’t believe
this but we’re going to get taken out by a student pilot flying into this
runway. That turns out that wasn’t the case. Yeah, but that’s what I originally
thought. I thought it was a small aircraft of some kind.
And
then, as they say, as the event unfolded, that wasn’t the case. But originally,
I did think it was something terrestrial.
KR:
Did you hear any sound or anything?
RY:
No, I didn’t hear a sound. I didn’t hear any sounds at all. And, I guess mainly
because we, I say we, the pilot Larry… Larry and myself both were fixed on this
object. If there were a sound, I might not have heard it. You know how when you
so concentrate on something. I don’t recall a sound. Not like a jet aircraft …
KR:
How close did this thing come to you?
RY:
You know, I’ll tell you what, that night it came, and I’m not being dramatic,
it came so close off our front, near the rotor mast, I thought we were going to
have a blade strike here. We’re going to hit this thing. Not that I saw any
reflection off the craft whatever it was but it seemed so close. I think it was
because the light on it trail edge was so bright it seemed it was right on top
of us. In fact, I sit on the right side of the aircraft that night… and it’s
funny how you notice little things when something like that happens. I noticed
that I, both he and I were crouching like ducking out of the way, although it
wouldn’t have done us any good. We were bot ducking. That’s how close we
thought it was.
The
thing is, it had paralleled us for a few minutes before it started to converge
on our course… This craft off to our east and again it is hard at night to
judge distances and such, I’d say it was a mile, maybe two miles to the east of
us, heading north as well. I don’t know how I picked it out, that is to say,
well there wasn’t a lot of traffic that night anyway, but I could see that this
thing was turning into our course. I told Larry about it. I alerted the
captain. You know, I said, “We’ve got an aircraft about three o’clock and
closing to two o’clock. He looked over and he said, “Yeah, keep an eye on it.”
I don’t think I said anything after that because he was aware of it. But he
took the controls from the co-pilot who was flying that night.
KR:
Which isn’t surprising because the thing was on his side do he had a better
view of it.
RY:
I don’t think the co-pilot that night and I don’t think he was aware of
anything going on because our conversations, between he and I, Captain Coyne
and I just bits and pieces… so he just took the aircraft and said, “I’ve got
it.”
Talk
a bit about the procedure for taking over the controls in the aircraft. And
talk about Vietnam and mentions the 1st Cav. And where he served in
Vietnam.
RY:
How did you get into this.
KR:
There’s a fellow who thinks you might have seen a refueling aircraft.
RY:
The light pattern on the international, you know the red green beacons… they
didn’t look right. That’s what I first thought. We’ve got a student pilot here
flying right across our bow here and is going to run into us. It was just a
funny thing.
KR:
Coyne had the collective down, yet the aircraft seemed to climb.
RY:
That’s what Larry said. I didn’t feel that. I really didn’t feel that motion of
being pulled up. The bottom did drop out suddenly when Larry pushed the
collective down. And I just thought he recovered in level flight. I don’t
recall being sucked up or anything like that.
KR:
What I’m saying is that he looked at the altimeter and it was suddenly at 3500
feet.
RY:
Yeah, but there was a lot going on in the cockpit at the time too. I don’t
know. Maybe. Maybe not.
KR:
I’m confused because… I understand it was an exciting time in the cockpit…
RY:
Let me clarify that. People sometimes might think we’re going nuts. Actually,
there was almost no comment, no word, nothing when the whole thing happened, I
guess because Larry and I were looking at it. I think John came over up to the
cockpit and looked up. By that time the thing was up over us. I don’t recall
any noise or “look at this. Look at this,” or anything that. Everyone was just
kind of reacting.
Again,
talk about flying in combat and how well everyone was trained.
KR:
You can’t really comment on this climb or what might have precipitated it.
RY:
No. No, I … if Larry said, he’s the only one, unless Jezzi did, he was the only
one who knows what was going on up front by the instruments because we all were
looking at this object. I don’t know. I just have to take Larry’s word for it…
I didn’t feel any ascent, let me tell you that. I did feel a sudden drop but I
didn’t feel any sudden ascent…
KR:
I was just wondering about some of this stuff from the guy who thinks it was a
refueling aircraft.
RY:
That’s funny. I would think that the refueling aircraft, I would think they
would be very well lit up. Let me tell you this and I’m not trying to make a
case for our sighting because it has already been correlated, as you know, by a
woman on the ground. I will tell you this, if there is one vision that will
remain in my mind, it was this. That night, because tracking the aircraft off
to the east, as it headed toward us, against a starlit sky… this thing reminded
me of a submarine cruising through the silent ocean. As I looked at it, but
this thing was cruising right toward us, slightly above us, and it blotted out
the stars behind it. Just a nice round or oblong shape. It just looked so
serene, just cruising though the ocean. It didn’t look anything like a
refueling aircraft. It had the wrong shape.
KR:
You didn’t see any hint of engines? Glow from a jet engine or glow from
turboprops? I’m thinking mainly of refueling aircraft.
RY:
That’s what surprises me. Nothing terrestrial aircraft that I can think of
comes close to what that looked like. That’s my thought. It just didn’t. I’d be
lying if I said, “Oh, it could have been a Piper or a jet or whatever.”… It was
not like a high-performance aircraft. It did have a bright light out of the
back. It might have been a jet of some type but I can’t say for sure.
Lost
a little bit of the discussion as I had to turn the tape over.
RY:
We’d get challenges and they would tell us that it was something terrestrial
and maybe it was… It sure didn’t look like anything that I had seen before.
KR:
The other question I have is he, Larry, told Jenny Zeidman at some point that
at some point he had tried to find any other aircraft in the area, meaning a
couple of days later, and Mansfield told him that there was no other traffic.
Are you familiar with that at all?
RY:
Yeah, I am. They were adamant, Mansfield was adamant about no other traffic in
the area.
KR:
That’s an important point.
RY:
I guess, you might say, clinch it. Then again there was something… that almost
collided with us… You know, through all this, people have proposed what might
have been and so I’ll say, okay, since I couldn’t tell what it was for sure in
the darkness of the night, and they weren’t there, I guess it could be anything
you say. With the refueling thing, had that been the case… those planes are lit
up at night and I would have seen more than just Rudolph the Red Nosed on the
front edge of this thing and a bright light in the ass.
Talk
about the documents found on line and the search for the documents. And then
talk about Philip Klass and how he tried to pin Yanascek down, kind of calling
me a liar. So, we continue the discussion of Klass’ methodology.
Wrap
it all up with a question about chatting again if additional questions come up.
The civilian witnesses
One of the skeptical
complaints was that there were no other witnesses to the sighting. Only the
aircrew had seen anything and their observations were not all consistent.
Jezzi, for example, said that he hadn’t seen a craft although there were hints
in his testimony that there was something solid behind the bright lights he
observed.
Three years later, in
1976, investigators learned of additional witnesses, these people were on the
ground. The Civil Commission on Aerial Phenomena (CCAP), described by Zeidman
was a group of “technically-oriented central Ohio people interested in UFOs,”
published in the August 19, 1976, Mansfield News Journal, an article
recapping the Coyne sighting and asking for anyone who had seen anything that
night to report it.
On that same even,
according to the information supplied by Zeidman, Warren Nicholson, the CCAP
director, spoke to a Charles C., the last name withheld at the request of the
family, [though it seems this was Erma DeLong] who said that he, along with his
mother and siblings had seen the encounter. Within days, Nicholson and William
E. Jones, a well-known UFO researcher living in Ohio, interviewed the family.
There were additional
interviews conducted. Nicholson was accompanied on his second interview by John
Lenihan, a police helicopter pilot and Tim Wegner. Zeidman conducted her own two-hour
interview as well. She credits Nicholson as the primary investigator, and her
report has quoted material from Nicholson’s tapes, but for clarity, has
inserted quotes from her interviews to clarify the sequence of events.
It was just after 11:00
p.m., that Mrs. C, accompanied by four children were heading east when she saw
two lights in the sky. The leading light was a bright red and the other was a
dim green. They appeared to be on a single craft, or flying in a tight
formation, coming from the east. At first, they thought it was a small aircraft
but said the speed was like that of a jet. The lights were blinking and they
saw no rotating beacon.
Then to the south or
southeast, they spotted other lights on a helicopter at a relatively low
altitude. They would later say that the helicopter lights were blinking. They
also heard the noise associated with the helicopter. As the helicopter
converged with the red and green lights, she pulled the car over. She thought
the two sets of lights were about to collide.
They thought that the
red light was attached to a larger object that looked like a blimp with a dome
on top. This object, described as the size of a school bus, flew “over the top
of the other one [helicopter] and then stopped.”
Charlie, who had gotten
out of the car so that he had a better view, said, “…it was right there,
sitting there… it was long ways. It was a big old thing. They the green light
flared up…. I saw that thing and the helicopter.”
According to them, the
helicopter was just barely ahead of the object and below it. And then,
according to Charlie, the helicopter flew over them without changing course. Everything
turned green and there was more noise from the helicopter. The green light
lasted about ten seconds, according to the witnesses. One of them said, “I
think the green light came from the helicopter. It kind of looked like rays
coming down.”
Curt, another of the
witnesses, said, “It just flew off and got smaller and smaller toward the northwest.”
What is interesting it
that the descriptions of the incident matches those given by those in the
helicopter. However, it must be noted that these interviews were conducted
three years after the sightings, and the witnesses had been inspired to come
forward by the newspaper article that recapped the sighting from the aircrews’
point of view. If the ground witnesses were looking for some guidance, it was
in the article, which is not to say that their observations weren’t made on the
night of the incidence.
It must also be noted
that there seems to be no motivation for the witnesses coming forward at the
later date. The real question is how much of the report was prompted by the
newspaper articles and other coverage of the event in 1973 and later in 1976
and how much was their raw memories. There is no real answer here.
But these weren’t the
only witnesses on the ground. Zeidman found a mother and son, Jeanne and John
Elias who also had a strange experience on October 18. Jeanne Elias said she
remembered the date because it was her younger son’s birthday and there had
been a party for him.
Just after a 11:00, she
heard a helicopter flying over. She told Zeidman that she worried about
aircraft crashing into her house. It was not such a strange fear. They lived on
the approach to Mansfield Airport and they lived on an elevation, so she stuck
her head under her pillow.
Her son, John, who was
fourteen, yelled out. When she went to his room, he wanted to know if she had
seen the green light. He said, “The whole room lit up green.” Zeidman would
determine that the green was the same shade that John Elias described was the
same as that described by other witnesses.
The real problem is
that neither he nor his mother looked outside. She heard the helicopter and he
saw the bright green light. Not exactly the best corroboration, but then, it
does provide a little additional evidence.
The Skeptical Solutions
When there is a
sighting that gains a great deal of media attention, some skeptics are quick to
investigate. They suggest that they come into the investigation with an open
mind, looking at the evidence, but all too often they are looking for a
terrestrial explanation, regardless of that evidence. This case has had its
critics, and some of the criticisms do make sense, but then the solutions
offered do not.
The Philip Klass Solution
I’m going to base analysis this on my training and experience as
a helicopter pilot and aircraft commander flying in the same type of aircraft
Coyne that night. I will add here that my experience of nearly 1500 hours in
helicopters, and my experiences in the stress of combat operations, provide me
with a perspective that is not brought to the table by others.
The descriptions of the incident, from those directly involved,
have been covered earlier and need no recapitulation here. Instead, I’ll
examine this from the point of view offered by Philip Klass. I will note that
Klass never met a UFO sighting he liked and offered explanations for everyone
he investigated. Some of those explanations, to be fair, were spot on. Others
seem to have been snatched from thin air, often overlooking relevant facts and
witness statements. In this case, there are many things that Klass wrote that
do not stand up to objective scrutiny.
Klass, when he heard about the case in October 1973, decided to
take a closer look at it. He appeared on a television show about UFOs with
Healey, and he recorded another show that aired the next night that featured
Coyne as the guest. Klass, in his book UFO’s Explained, wrote, “As
I studied the transcript of my tape recording [of Coyne on the Dick
Cavett Show] my attention began to focus on the possibility that the UFO
might have been a bright meteor-fireball.”
Klass explained his long search for a meteoric explanation but
found nothing to corroborate his idea. He did bring up the Zond IV reentry in
1968 where a number of people believed they saw a cigar-shaped craft with
lighted windows as the rocket broke up. He seems to have confused Yanacsek’s
sighting on the right side of the aircraft, with Healey’s sighting of the red
light that was seen out the left that slid to the rear, heading south. If it
was the same object, then that approach from the other side moments later
clearly proves that it wasn’t a meteor.
He also reported that he had asked others in a position to have
seen the fireball or bolide if they had, but there were no reports of anyone
else seeing it. Given the time of day, meaning not all that late at night, and
the area over which it would have flown, it seems reasonable to believe that
someone else would have seen it. In today’s world, a fireball would be widely
reported, often with video of the event. At that time, it would have made the
news, though the reports probably would have been confined to the immediate
area.
Klass mentioned that the cockpit was bathed in green light as
the object passed overhead and reported that there are two Plexiglas panels set
above the pilots’ heads and these are tinted green. They were called, cleverly
by the flight crews, the greenhouses, but they are directly over the pilots and
are not part of the windshield. Klass seemed to have confused these green
tinted areas for something on the windshield (or canopy as he called it) much
as cars used to have a green tint at the top of the windshield. The crew was
not looking through the greenhouses and the light was not coming directly
through them. Besides, the crew described other colored lights on the object
which they were watching through the clear, Plexiglas windshield.
Klass admitted that the climb was the “real puzzler.” He
discussed it with Dave Brown, an “experienced pilot with some hours in a
helicopter [which tells nothing about his experience in a helicopter and it
doesn’t say if those hours are as a pilot or a passenger and if there are very
many of them. I have made it clear that my training was the same as Coyne and
Jezzi and I have more than a thousand hours in the Huey helicopter. Klass never
bothered to talk to me about, though we knew each other]. Brown suggested that
perhaps the pilot or co-pilot might have unconsciously pulled back on the
collective [though the proper term here would be pulled up on the collective]
and or cyclic-pitch control(s) as he leaned back in his seat to view the
luminous object overhead.”
Lieutenant Arrigo Jezzi, the co-pilot, would never have pulled
up on the collective in the way Klass speculates. Had Jezzi felt the aircraft
was in danger and he needed to take over the controls, he would have put his
hands on them and said, “I’ve got it.”
Coyne would have relinquished control taking his hands off and
said, “You’ve got it.” We had all learned that sometimes the other pilot saw
something that we did not. It was standard procedure.
This was done so that the pilots wouldn’t be fighting each other
for control. In similar circumstances, meaning if one of them in the cockpit
saw something the other didn’t that might endanger the aircraft, this is what
was done, and that includes combat assaults under enemy fire, which can easily
be even more stressful than seeing a UFO. Every Army trained helicopter pilot
followed this ritual even at times like that, so, it is clear that Jezzi didn’t
take over control and didn’t touch the controls without alerting Coyne to that.
In fact, it would have been quicker for Jezzi to say, “Watch your altitude,”
which he said that he had done.
Could leaning back in the seat, trying to see the UFO above then
as Klass suggested have caused Coyne to pull up on the collective (as opposed
to have pulled back as Klass suggested)? Not really given the way the controls
are configured. Could he have pulled back on the cyclic in such a circumstance?
Maybe, but there would have been other consequences to that action, including a
slowing of the airspeed, a change in the engine noise and a change in the
orientation of the view in the cockpit which would have suggested that
something had happened. Or, in other words, that would have been noticed
because that is how the Army pilots were trained.
Klass, continued his speculation about all of this, based on the
information he had collected, some of which he failed to report, and he
concluded, “…we should all be grateful for the instinctive, if unconscious,
reactions of pilot Coyne or co-pilot Jezzi in pulling their helicopter out of
its steep descent barely four hundred feet about the ground.”
He then solved the case. He wrote, “…it will not be easy for
them to accept the explanation that the UFO was merely a bright fireball, that
the seemingly mysterious behavior of the helicopter was due to the unconscious,
instinctive reactions of well-trained pilots…”
With absolutely no evidence of a bright meteor that night, Klass
has created one out of thin air and the skeptics have not asked him to explain
that position. They don’t ask him why Yanacsek’s account is not mentioned, or
the confusion about which crewmember saw what and where. Finally, no one asks
him how it would be for the pilot to have lowered the collective to arrest the
ascent when it was already at the bottom stop and couldn’t be pushed down any
further. He just speculates, contrary to the pilot testimony, that one or the
other had pulled up on the collective earlier (which he could have then pushed
down, but said that he couldn’t, so he pulled up). It is clear that Klass does
not understand the Army procedures, and that he reports his speculations as if
they were facts. None of this means that Coyne and his crew saw an alien craft,
only that Klass’ analysis of it is flawed by what others would call “Ufological
thinking” if Klass was at the other end of the spectrum. So, now let the
defense of Klass begin, regardless of the facts.
There are other aspects of this case that I haven’t addressed
here. Klass suggested that the low altitude of the aircraft accounts for the
failure of the radio, but doesn’t mention that they had been in contact with
Mansfield prior to the encounter in which the radios, all the radios failed.
Nor does he mention that once the UFO had disappeared, the radios then worked
again. While distance and low altitude might account for the failure to reach
the other, more distant airports, it does not explain the failure while the UFO
is nearby.
Klass’ explanation of a bright meteor and the overreaction by
the crew is not a good answer. It simply does not fit the facts.
Parabunk and the Refueling Scenario
Another, and more entertaining and better thought-out
explanation for what Coyne and his crew saw was a misguided refueling
operation. Although the theory is based on some interesting analysis, in the
end it fails. To understand, it is necessary to take a look at it. There might
be some limited redundancy for the ease of understanding, most of the testimony
cited by Parabunk has been examined earlier.
There is one point that needs to be made. He cited a 74-page
document he used as the basis for his analysis. This was a chapter in Peter
Sturrock’s book, The UFO Enigma: A New Review of the Physical Evidence.
Sturrock lists as his source for the information, Jennie Zeidman’s work, which
is a 122-page investigative report published as A Helicopter-UFO Encounter
Over Ohio. He also cites another paper by Zeidman. I, of course, used all
these sources in preparation of this chapter, along with a large number of
other articles and books. As noted above, I interviewed one of the participants
in the encounter, as well as communicating with Jennie Zeidman. This, I
believe, among other things, provides a better basis for comment on the event.
The essence of the theory is that a refueling aircraft’s flight
crew believe that the helicopter flown by Coyne was scheduled to be refueled.
Given the track of the refueling aircraft, that is flying south, along the left
side of the helicopter, the looping turn behind it, and then the approach to
fly in front of the helicopter is the sort of maneuver expected during a
refueling operation. It was only after it was discovered that the helicopter
wasn’t the aircraft to be refueled that the refueling aircraft broke away.
Parabunk believed, based on the description of the lights, that
is the red and green navigation lights, the bright green light displayed, and
the brighter white light were evidence of the nature of the craft that paced
the helicopter. Even the description of the craft, sort of cigar shaped with a
dome on top resembled, to a degree, the description of a C-130 refueling
aircraft. Satisfied that he had solved the case as mistaken identity, he
published his findings at:
http://parabunk.blogspot.com/2018/05/the-coyne-incident-big-picture.html
His initial report provided details about refueling aircraft,
the rules and regulations governing the operation of refueling aircraft over
the United States and military regulations about it. And, without critical
comment, it seemed that it was a reasonable explanation.
There were problems with it however. There were no records
covering the situation. Given that this was a military operation, there should
have been a great deal of documentation for it. The flight plans for the
refueling aircraft, the FAA notifications and coordination. The military orders
for both the refueling aircraft and the helicopter or helicopters to be
refueled. None of that was provided. I engaged with Parabunk in an email
exchange in which we both commented about the case from our rather different
perspectives. For example:
I had written, in response to his theory, "Here’s
where we are on this. The refueling aircraft theory is unproven and seems
unlikely as the explanation."
He wrote back saying, “Here's where we really
are on this: There's a limited set of possible aircraft to choose from. Nobody
has been able to choose anything except a tanker, which is compatible with all
the witness accounts. It's not just a matter of evidence, which might not even
exist, and which the case has never had to begin with. It's a matter of not
even having other serious alternatives.”
My response was, “That is, of course, assuming that a
terrestrial aircraft was responsible for the sighting. This hasn’t been
established, and that there is no evidence of a tanker in the area makes it
problematic. Besides, the witness statements do not conform to the tanker
explanation, unless you force them into that pattern. There could be some sort
of natural phenomenon that we haven’t even considered… or we could just agree
that the tanker scenario suffers from a lack of evidence putting such an aircraft
in the area. Not to mention the idea that a tanker is the only aircraft from
which to choose (or to be accurate, of the limited number of aircraft) because
it presupposes that an aircraft is the culprit here.
Please note in his
response that he said there were a limited number of aircraft to choose from.
He has assumed, in the beginning, that the encounter was caused by the close
approach of an aircraft, and began his search looking for aircraft that fit
into that point of view. However, if what Coyne and the crew had seen, then an
aircraft is not a viable explanation. Besides, if it was a refueling aircraft
as claimed, then there should have been records. A search, even a quick search
should have provided some clue. Instead, we learn:
I
don't live in Ohio and I'm not familiar with all those military bases, their
organizational structures, record keeping practices, FOIA processes and so on.
So, I'm not really in the best of positions to try to acquire that information
and it would take me a lot of work to familiarize myself with all that would be
needed, and I have no reason to expect any financial or other significant gains
for all that work. I also don't have any emotional attachments to the Coyne
Incident, and it has never been among my favorites. So why would I be so
interested in using my time on it?...
Later, in a posting to his website, he expanded on this lack
of documentation and the reason that is unimportant. He wrote:
At the moment we don't
have any records one way or another of what was or wasn't flying there, other
than Coyne reportedly having asked from Mansfield that their F-100 fighters had
landed before. Everything indicates there was never an official investigation
of that case. The local FAA chief Coyne talked to couldn't even tell where to
report it, so Coyne eventually filed an army disposition form to have it
officially on record, but there's no indication it ever led to anything. Coyne
himself should at least have known, and be interviewed for it and so on, but
even though he talked about the incident years later, even in the UN, I'm not
aware he ever mentioning anything about any official investigation.
We don't know if the
necessary records still exist, where they should be found, and whether they are
complete, accurate or even written in the first place. Hopefully those will be
found, but it can take months or years to get the results, and even then they
might simply inform us that the records are already gone.
This would seem to end the discussion about a refueling
aircraft because he admits there are no records. Of course, it is the
responsibility of the one advancing the theory to provide the evidence for that
theory.
I will note here that Coyne hadn’t asked about the Mansfield
F-100s, but had asked, according to the interview conducted by Zeidman, Coyne
had asked, “Do you have any high-performance aircraft in your area.” Not quite
the same thing and certainly can be interpreted as Coyne asking about the F-100
aircraft because he knew they were based at Mansfield.
While there are many points that can be countered by using
the very documents that Parabunk used, I’ll limit myself to one more. He wrote:
Jezzi also already
suspected the Climb could have been just a simple mistake from Coyne:
I wasn't
aware of the climb at all - and 1,000 fpm - it could have been less. It was not
that much of a climb, that steep, that much acceleration. But the climbing is
something that occurs somewhat easily in a helicopter if you're not paying
attention. If you're flying the aircraft and thinking of something else. We
were talking rapidly about what was happening. You get excited and you just go
like this [demonstrates by raising left arm] and you're climbing. And going
from 1,500 to 3,000 feet in two or three minutes is not going to be
extraordinary. There are thermals that are so bad that you put your collective
down and you're still climbing. I've had it happen to me.
Zeidman: Do
you think Larry was responsible for the climb?
Jezzi: I don't know. Larry said, "Son of a gun, it pulled us up!"
Zeidman: You weren't following through [on the controls] ...
Jezzi: No, I didn't have the controls. I don't know what he did [emphasis in
the original].
It also doesn't seem to
speak too highly of Coyne as a professional pilot if he actually tried to fly
the helicopter to the ground for an estimated couple of minutes after the
danger of collision was already over, and they were just looking at the white light
receding, not paying attention to their altimeter. But that's basically what
Coyne has been describing having happened. It's either that, or he just didn't
notice or remember all he actually did in his state of panic.
But the record doesn’t reflect that. Using Zeidman’s report
for CUFOS that includes Hynek’s interview, you get the impression that Coyne
was well aware of the altitude. He was attempting to dive under the object,
whatever it was. Coyne said, “No, it stopped over us, and then it just slowly
moved, while I thought we were descending, ‘cause I remember it was 1700 feet
and I thought, ‘Oh, this is it,’ and then I saw it right in front here, and I
said, ‘That’s no F-100!’ Then it moved this way, and I looked at my altitude
and we were at 3500 feet…”
Or, in other words, Coyne had situational awareness. Although
it was night, it wasn’t pitch black, and there was a visible horizon. He knew
that there was no danger of flying into the ground as both Parabunk and Phil
Klass allege. The idea that Coyne was not paying attention to the altimeter
seems to have been debunked.
Parabunk quotes Jezzi about the climb. Jezzi mentions
thermals that can cause an aircraft to climb, even when trimmed for descent.
But the problem here is that it was the middle of October in northern Ohio and
it was after 11.00 p.m. Thermals are caused by the uneven heating of the ground
by the sun and the presence of thermals is often signaled by cumulous clouds.
In this case, there were no thermals to cause the climb. Jezzi was suggesting
something that had happened to him in the past, and something that nearly all
pilots have encountered. It’s just not something encountered at night, in
October, in Ohio, in this case.
The fatal flaws in this analysis are evident. According to
regulations, when refueling operations are being conducted, the aircraft
involved must make contact with the local FAA facilities, which means that the
tower at Mansfield should have been contacted. There is no evidence that there
was any sort of contact.
Refueling operations are conducted at high altitude so that
if there had been a refueling aircraft in the area, Mansfield would have known
about it. When Coyne began talking to the FAA about the near miss, those
records would have identified the aircraft involved.